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  • Is the 88 really that good?
    ↪BobbyB
    The 88 is something that is generated from the AI line from my understanding. Its AI driven. Dave can explain best how the AI works to generate the numbers.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    I’ve got to admit, this part about the 88 telling you how deep the winner usually is… that’s new to me, and I’ve been around a long time. If it really predicts the depth with that kind of accuracy, I can see why you’d grab the extra horse in those Chaos races.

    What throws me is how something that simple never showed up in any of the books we all read over the last forty years. We were all out there guessing how wide to go, and meanwhile this number is practically tapping you on the shoulder.

    I’m not using the DeTerminator yet, but the way you describe it, the 88 sounds like it does half the decision-making for you. I’d like to understand why it works that well.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    ↪StatsMan
    Welcome. You are surrounded by a lot of talent in this group.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Dave: I hurt my back about 25 years ago at work and quickly realized that the seated position was probably the worst thing for causing more pain. Standing or laying on the side proved to be much more tolerable along with abdominal strengthening exercises.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    One of the top 4 horses in an eight-horse field will win approximately 82% of the time. As is customary Dave being on point once again, the trick is to find value. Get better soon Dave. Take more drugs...! Better life through chemistry.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Hope you get well soon and the pain goes away. Take care and prayers.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Thanks Dio. That is good information. I am looking to getting up to speed with the program in a couple of months.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Unfortunately, I'm not necessarily an exacta player. I haven't tracked this, but I've noticed that the 1st and 3rd horses are on the board more often than not. The place horse-less occurring. Let me know if you find any data on this. You might be onto something.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    So my contention that an 88:4 race being approximately in the middle of the possible range of contenders might indeed be a good candidate for a 4 horse exacta box? Or am I reading too much into this?
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    I like using it. It's a good starting point for picking contenders.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    On Chaos 5 races with 88:5-6-+, I've found that you really need
    to add 1 more horse. If it is a Chaos 5 and 88:5, take the 1st
    6 horses, not just the 1st 5. 88:6 take 7. 88:7 take 8.

    Dave is right. There is such a small difference between horses
    5 and 6 that you really need to include him. If he is truly weaker,
    he will be eliminated when you go through your eliminations. If
    he has a chance to win, he will not be eliminated,

    In Chaos races, we know that we need to go wider. Take that 1 extra
    horse and give him consideration. You will be surprised at the extra
    wins that you will get!!
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    I do tend to believe that win percentage can be used as a proxy for a horse's theoretical place and/or show percentage. Just about every stat I have ever seen show a factor's place hit percentage greatly exceed its win percentage in anything but the smallest samples if that factor is any good.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    My experience is that the 88% is exceptionally accurate.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Sorry about that ponyplayer I guess I should have worded that more precisely. I WAS referring to the deTerminator's ability to able to come up with the winner 88% of the time with its 4 contenders. My question was only about the deTerminators ability to do this and not about any other method.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    I believe the 88% metric is a probability for horses that can win the race, not necessarily run second or third for exacta and trifecta wagers. Also, there is an odds factor built in. Just because one of the horses in the group has a probability of 88% to win the race doesn't mean the others will have an 88% chance to run second, third, or fourth. I don't think it works that way.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Dave - How do you know when the 88% is precisely 4
    without deTerminator?

    You can have 4 competitors in a 5 horse field and 4 in a 12 horse field.
    Or you can have 2 or 3 in a 5 horse field and 2-3-4-5-6-7 in a 12 horse field.

    The question is how do you know how many?? WITHOUT deTerminator.
    I'm not sure you CAN know without the program.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Why not wait for the races with precisely four contenders that comprise the 88% and just play a 4 horse exacta box with those? I would imagine that the hit rate would be pretty good.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Hey, StatsMan =
    Welcome!! Glad to have you join us.

    The 88 thing does work. We have several columns of
    proprietary rankings that DO work and give you 88% winners
    in the contenders that are flagged.

    As the fields become more competitive, the number of
    horses that make up the 88% goes up - there are more horses
    that have a chance of winning. It can range from a low of 2
    to as many as 7 or even 8 in a turf race with a very large field..

    You need a clear way of judging how competitive each race is
    and then determining how many horses can win - the 88%.

    Very difficult to do without deTerminator.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    How are you recreating the '88 thing'? As you can imagine there's lots of proprietary stuff in Det that would be nearly impossible to recreate on your own. And the 88% is just the tip of the iceberg.
    So, first, I recommend that you prove to yourself that your group of '88%' horses actually have at least an 88% chance of including the winner. After that, figure out how to winnow that down to the number of horses you want to bet.
  • Is the 88 really that good?
    Hey, guys. I’m new here but have watched quite a few Det videos.

    What I’ve seen, especially in the last couple of weeks, has been pretty impressive, especially all that 88 stuff.

    I don’t use Det right now and I’ve tried to create the 88 thing on my own, but it just doesn’t seem to come out the same way.

    Does it really work even close to what’s been shown with Det, or am I missing something pretty basic?
  • Jimmy P Recovering From Surgery
    Nasal surgery. Chronic sinus infections, etc, etc for 25+ years. Decided to get it taken care of before the new year. Went well, no issues. Back in the saddle within a few days.
  • Long Shot method 
    MVR02  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  2  KHALI J                  m3|  6.38|      |  6.51|  6.65|  6.23||  0.15| 3 4 3 3 2| 12. 36|108.216|  6|  1   1    5
  6  VESPERA                  L1|  1.74|      |  1.52|  1.32|  2.09|| -0.35| 1 2 4 2 3|  2.  8| 16. 48|  6|  2   4    8
  4  SHE'S SO SEXY            d1|  4.27|      |  2.24|  1.17|  3.01||  1.26| 2 1 1 1 1|  2.  2|  2.  2|  1|  3  18  108
  8  SACOS STOGIE             H9| 10.59|      | 18.79| 33.33| 14.95|| -4.36| 7 7 4 7 7| 49.196|999.999| 49|  4  12   36
  5  AURORA'S MUSIC           H4|  8.49|      | 10.58| 13.18|  7.77||  0.72| 5 4 4 4 4| 20. 80|320.999| 16|  6  24  120
  1  NOT TODAY                H9| 15.87|      | 23.00| 33.33| 15.56||  0.31| 8 8 8 8 8| 64.512|999.999| 64|  9  45  360
  3  LITTLE MISS MUNNY        m3|  3.74|      |  5.94|  9.44|  4.01|| -0.27| 4 4 7 5 6| 16.112|560.999| 30| 16 112  784
  7  VOTARY                   H5| 12.70|      | 15.14| 18.05|  8.62||  4.08| 6 3 2 5 4| 18. 36|180.720| 20| 18 108  864

 6   VESPERA                   7.80   4.00   3.20|
 5   AURORA'S MUSIC                   7.00   8.40|
 2   KHALI J                                 3.20|


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GP 02  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  7  REMEMBER                 H4|  7.44|      | 15.98| 34.33|  9.34|| -1.90| 5 6 4 5 5| 30.120|600.999| 25|  1   1    3
  6  FIERCE FAIRSHINDA        d1|  1.06|      |  0.49|  0.23|  1.05||  0.01| 1 1 1 1 1|  1.  1|  1.  1|  1|  2   4   12
  2  BELLA'S BREEZE           H3|  5.56|      |  6.63|  7.91|  5.17||  0.39| 3 3 5 3 3|  9. 45|135.405|  9|  2   4   16
  3  SODA                     m2|  2.75|      |  2.92|  3.10|  2.93|| -0.18| 2 2 2 2 2|  4.  8| 16. 32|  4|  4   8   16
  8  CAMM'S GIRL              H4|  9.32|      | 17.36| 32.32|  8.21||  1.11| 4 4 3 4 4| 16. 48|192.768| 16|  9  63  441
  1  JUNEGENAI                H5| 14.01|      | 27.60| 54.39| 17.40|| -3.39| 6 5 6 6 6| 30.180|999.999| 36|  9  36  180
  4  ONTHEBLINK               H5| 28.02|      | 39.04| 54.39| 18.84||  9.18| 7 7 7 7 7| 49.343|999.999| 49| 15  75  450

 1   JUNEGENAI                38.20  15.00   6.40|
 2   BELLA'S BREEZE                   8.00   6.00|
 3   SODA                                    3.20|

MVR03  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  8  HITE                     H5| 12.81|      | 21.44| 35.87| 15.34|| -2.53| 7 7 4 7 6| 49.196|999.999| 42|  1   2    8
  4  DARK VADER               d1|  2.02|      |  0.96|  0.46|  1.47||  0.55| 1 2 2 1 1|  2.  4|  4.  4|  1|  2  10   70
  3  GAPPER                   H4|  6.77|      |  9.52| 13.39|  7.54|| -0.77| 3 5 6 4 4| 15. 90|360.999| 16|  2   8   48
  7  OLLIE'S FOLLY            H5|  8.50|      | 14.03| 23.17| 12.29|| -3.79| 5 4 4 4 7| 20. 80|320.999| 28|  2   4   16
  1  THE PINK Z               H5|  6.77|      | 13.37| 26.40|  8.31|| -1.54| 5 5 6 6 4| 25.150|900.999| 24|  3   9   27
  2  WETZEL                   m3|  5.04|      |  5.17|  5.31|  3.36||  1.68| 4 1 1 3 2|  4.  4| 12. 24|  6|  4  12   48
  5  ELLIOT THE DRAGON        m2|  2.45|      |  2.54|  2.63|  2.94|| -0.49| 2 3 3 2 2|  6. 18| 36. 72|  4|  9  36  180

 4   DARK VADER                6.20   3.60   2.60|
 1   THE PINK Z                       7.80   4.40|
 2   WETZEL                                  2.20|


GP 03  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  4  LOIS' COURAGE            d1|  2.69|      |  1.33|  0.66|  2.12||  0.57| 1 2 1 1 1|  2.  2|  2.  2|  1|  1   1    4
  2  SPATULA                  m2|  4.80|      |  4.17|  3.63|  4.64||  0.16| 2 4 5 2 3|  8. 40| 80.240|  6|  1   2    4
  6  BELLE OF THE SOUTH       H4|  6.38|      |  7.72|  9.35|  5.71||  0.67| 4 1 2 4 2|  4.  8| 32. 64|  8|  2   8   32
  5  PLUM IRISH               m2|  1.74|      |  2.28|  3.00|  2.04|| -0.30| 3 3 2 3 3|  9. 18| 54.162|  9|  6  18   54
  1  INALLPROBABILITY         H5|  6.38|      | 12.89| 26.05|  8.84|| -2.46| 6 6 6 6 6| 36.216|999.999| 36| 10  50  250
  7  SWEET SASH               H5|  8.49|      | 16.23| 31.02| 11.24|| -2.75| 5 4 4 5 5| 20. 80|400.999| 25| 18 108  648
  3  AVE FENIX                H5| 21.13|      | 26.47| 33.15| 15.07||  6.06| 7 7 7 7 7| 49.343|999.999| 49| 49 1991,393

 5   PLUM IRISH                5.20   3.00   2.40|
 4   LOIS' COURAGE                    3.00   2.60|
 7   SWEET SASH                              3.40|


AQU03  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  7  SPIRIT DRAGON            d1|  2.11|      |  1.11|  0.58|  2.24|| -0.13| 1 1 2 1 1|  1.  2|  2.  2|  1|  1   1    3
  2  TAPWRITS TEMPER          H4|  5.22|      | 10.09| 19.51|  5.28|| -0.06| 5 5 5 5 4| 25.125|625.999| 20|  2   6   30
  1  MCDIESEL                 H9|  8.34|      | 16.66| 33.29|  9.23|| -0.89| 7 7 7 7 7| 49.343|999.999| 49|  2   6   36
  4  SHADOW SURGE             m2|  1.70|      |  2.32|  3.17|  1.85|| -0.15| 4 3 1 3 2| 12. 12| 36. 72|  6|  4  12   36
  3  DARK VECTOR              m2|  6.26|      |  4.84|  3.74|  5.28||  0.98| 2 1 2 2 3|  2.  4|  8. 24|  6|  8  40  280
  6  PANDEMIC HERO            H9| 12.50|      | 20.40| 33.29| 15.72|| -3.22| 6 6 6 6 6| 36.216|999.999| 36|  9  36  144
  5  READY SET TWIRL          H4| 15.60|      | 15.46| 15.33| 11.72||  3.88| 3 4 4 4 4| 12. 48|192.768| 16| 30 1801,260

 4   SHADOW SURGE              5.84   3.20   2.40|
 7   SPIRIT DRAGON                    2.80   2.18|
 3   DARK VECTOR                             2.82|


MVR05  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  7  BIG FACTS                m2|  4.43|      |  4.10|  3.80|  4.36||  0.07| 2 4 7 2 4|  8. 56|112.448|  8|  1   1    3
  5  LADY LOTTIE              d1|  3.45|      |  1.51|  0.66|  2.18||  1.27| 1 1 1 1 2|  1.  1|  1.  2|  2|  2   6   18
  4  DANZA MAGIC              H9|  9.86|      | 17.34| 30.50| 11.72|| -1.86| 8 8 9 8 8| 64.576|999.999| 64|  2   4   12
  3  CITY SIGNS               H9| 14.81|      | 22.83| 35.20| 16.81|| -2.00| 9 7 3 8 6| 63.189|999.999| 48|  4  24  144
  8  TWERK                    H4|  7.89|      | 10.48| 13.93|  9.69|| -1.80| 3 6 3 5 4| 18. 54|270.999| 20|  5  30  210
 12  POWER BANKER             H5|  9.86|      | 15.51| 24.40| 11.28|| -1.42| 3 9 8 7 8| 27.216|999.999| 56|  5  25  200
  6  BOX STEP                 H4|  5.91|      |  9.65| 15.77|  9.61|| -3.70| 7 3 3 5 3| 21. 63|315.945| 15|  7  63  567
 11  TRULY INCLUSIVE          H9| 14.81|      | 23.85| 38.41| 20.23|| -5.42| 9 9 8 8 9| 81.648|999.999| 72|  7  49  441
  9  KAT TRAX                 m2|  4.92|      |  4.74|  4.57|  4.46||  0.46| 3 1 1 3 1|  3.  3|  9.  9|  3|  8  32  160
  2  LADY FORTUNE             H4| 19.75|      | 18.76| 17.82| 13.45||  6.30| 3 4 3 4 6| 12. 36|144.864| 24| 24 1681,512
 10  SWEET EMPIRE             H9| 19.75|      | 27.54| 38.41| 20.23|| -0.48| 9 9 9 9 9| 81.729|999.999| 81| 49 1991,791

 7   BIG FACTS                 5.00   3.20   3.40|
 2   LADY FORTUNE                    11.00   7.00|
 6   BOX STEP                                9.00|


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FG 02  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  9  RUNNINGINTHEMONEY        d1|  2.42|      |  1.06|  0.46|  1.50||  0.92| 1 1 1 1 1|  1.  1|  1.  1|  1|  1   2    4
  6  CREEKSIDE                m2|  3.70|      |  3.89|  4.09|  3.88|| -0.18| 3 3 4 3 3|  9. 36|108.324|  9|  2   4    8
  2  PURRRFECT RHYTHM         m3|  4.98|      |  6.93|  9.64|  5.72|| -0.74| 5 5 6 5 4| 25.150|750.999| 20|  2   6   24
  8  YOU GOOD                 m2|  6.69|      |  6.37|  6.06|  6.09||  0.60| 2 2 4 2 2|  4. 16| 32. 64|  4|  3  15   75
  7  CITY OF LOVE             H4|  6.69|      |  9.58| 13.73|  7.37|| -0.68| 4 3 2 4 4| 12. 24| 96.384| 16|  4  24  168
  4  SPINNING ACES            H9|  8.40|      | 17.10| 34.81| 15.62|| -7.22| 8 7 3 6 6| 56.168|999.999| 36| 20 100  600
  3  TAKEOVER FIFTYFOUR       H9|  6.69|      | 12.59| 23.71|  9.08|| -2.39| 7 8 8 6 7| 56.448|999.999| 42| 24 1441,008
  5  JOEY'S LIGHTENING        H9| 16.97|      | 24.30| 34.81| 16.09||  0.88| 6 6 6 6 7| 36.216|999.999| 42| 42 1991,592

 9   RUNNINGINTHEMONEY         4.60   3.40   2.40|
 6   CREEKSIDE                        5.40   3.60|
 2   PURRRFECT RHYTHM                        3.00|

GP 05  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  2  DOUBLE NEAT              m2|  3.56|      |  3.49|  3.43|  2.92||  0.64| 6 3 3 5 6| 18. 54|270.999| 30|  1   5   40
 10  CORTA FUEGO              d1|  4.57|      |  2.20|  1.06|  3.37||  1.20| 1 1 1 1 1|  1.  1|  1.  1|  1|  2   6   24
  4  DRINK N WINK             m2|  5.08|      |  4.73|  4.41|  5.91|| -0.83| 4 3 4 2 2| 12. 48| 96.192|  4|  2   6   24
  3  HOT N LUCKY              H9|  8.11|      | 14.11| 24.54| 12.08|| -3.97| 9 9 9 8 8| 81.729|999.999| 64|  2   6   24
  9  HYTECK PRINCE            m4|  6.09|      |  7.46|  9.13|  8.03|| -1.94| 2 2 2 4 5|  4.  8| 32.160| 20|  4  16  144
  7  RISK FACTOR              H9| 10.14|      | 17.09| 28.81| 10.79|| -0.65| 8 7 8 6 4| 56.448|999.999| 24|  5  30  270
  1  WARRIOR WAYNE            H9| 20.28|      | 28.85| 41.04| 24.06|| -3.78| 9 9 9 9 9| 81.729|999.999| 81|  6  24  168
  5  SECRET BAGENT MAN        H9| 20.28|      | 28.85| 41.04| 24.06|| -3.78| 9 9 9 9 9| 81.729|999.999| 81| 15  75  525
  6  TALL STORY               m4|  8.11|      |  7.97|  7.84|  9.33|| -1.22| 3 6 5 3 2| 18. 90|270.540|  6| 16  96  672
  8  LAS OLAS                 H9| 20.28|      | 24.74| 30.17| 17.72||  2.56| 6 5 5 9 6| 30.150|999.999| 54| 18 1441,296
 12  GIFTEDBYDESIGN           H9| 10.14|      | 19.13| 36.09| 10.19|| -0.05| 4 7 7 7 8| 28.196|999.999| 56| 48 1991,791

 2   DOUBLE NEAT               8.60   4.80   3.20|
 3   HOT N LUCKY                     13.00   6.80|
 4   DRINK N WINK                            3.20|


MVR06  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  7  SHIELDMEWITHPRAYER       m2|  4.75|      |  4.61|  4.47|  4.45||  0.30| 3 1 1 3 1|  3.  3|  9.  9|  3|  1   4   16
  6  MAGICALLY VANISHED       m2|  6.32|      |  6.83|  7.39|  8.63|| -2.31| 3 5 6 2 2| 15. 90|180.360|  4|  1   2    8
 10  GREY MARKET              H5| 10.51|      | 13.12| 16.39|  9.41||  1.10| 7 6 2 6 6| 42. 84|504.999| 36|  2   4   16
  2  MY FINE AQUILINE         H2| 10.51|      |  8.96|  7.64|  7.45||  3.06| 2 3 4 3 2|  6. 24| 72.144|  6|  3  21  147
  8  SICILIAN STYLE TWO       H3|  8.41|      | 10.30| 12.61|  9.38|| -0.97| 5 4 5 5 2| 20.100|500.999| 10|  5  25  150
  3  AMAZINGNESS              d1|  2.66|      |  1.35|  0.69|  2.11||  0.55| 1 2 2 1 2|  2.  4|  4.  8|  2|  8  48  336
  1  HERE KITTY KITTY         m3|  3.71|      |  6.38| 10.96|  4.88|| -1.17| 6 8 7 8 7| 48.336|999.999| 56|  9  27  108
  9  DAME MAUDE CHARDIN       H9| 12.61|      | 18.79| 27.99| 18.03|| -5.42| 7 7 7 6 8| 49.343|999.999| 48| 25 1501,200
  4  PEARLINTHEROUGH          H9| 20.96|      | 27.10| 35.04| 18.17||  2.79| 9 9 9 9 9| 81.729|999.999| 81| 32 1991,791
  5  SONHO DE VERAO           H9| 20.96|      | 27.10| 35.04| 18.17||  2.79| 9 9 9 9 9| 81.729|999.999| 81| 81 1991,791

 7   SHIELDMEWITHPRAYER       17.20   8.00   5.20|
 8   SICILIAN STYLE TWO               9.20   6.00|
 9   DAME MAUDE CHARDIN                     10.80|


AQU05  ABBY ODDS
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Prg  Horse                 fts  |    ML|  ODDS|   OBJ|  AI L|  ABBY||  diff| 1 2 3 4 5| r2  r3| r4  r5|r45|*r2 *r3  *r4
  2  RARE SOCIETY             H5|  8.40|      | 13.91| 23.02| 10.02|| -1.62| 5 6 6 5 6| 30.180|900.999| 30|  1   1    2
  1  THREE NINES FINE         d1|  2.42|      |  1.45|  0.87|  2.66|| -0.24| 1 2 3 1 1|  2.  6|  6.  6|  1|  2   6   24
  8  WILL OF A WOMANNE        m3|  4.13|      |  4.78|  5.54|  4.18|| -0.05| 3 2 2 3 3|  6. 12| 36.108|  9|  2   4   12
  6  SASSETTI                 H3| 10.11|      |  9.69|  9.29|  6.07||  4.04| 1 1 1 3 2|  1.  1|  3.  6|  6|  3  18  108
  9  RED BOOTS                H9| 12.67|      | 26.00| 53.37| 19.57|| -6.90| 7 7 7 7 7| 49.343|999.999| 49|  9  27   81
  7  FOREVER TO GO            L1|  1.99|      |  1.89|  1.80|  2.14|| -0.15| 3 4 4 2 3| 12. 48| 96.288|  6| 12  48  192
  3  PATIENCE N GRACE         H5|  8.40|      | 14.56| 25.23|  9.13|| -0.73| 5 5 5 6 5| 25.125|750.999| 30| 12  48  288
  4  LUMINESCYNT              H9| 25.43|      | 36.84| 53.37| 19.57||  5.86| 8 8 8 8 8| 64.512|999.999| 64| 64 1991,592

 2   RARE SOCIETY             28.64   9.82   4.82|
 1   THREE NINES FINE                 3.58   2.76|
 3   PATIENCE N GRACE                        5.18|


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  • Long Shot method
    I did a short study of 29 chaos 5 races with 7 or more starters and played the 3 lowest Reynolds2 on the final 5 of the B- screen. Dave has made those numbers available on the Odds screen as *R2. He also has *R3 and *R4. I used *R2 since long shots usually don't have alot going for them.
    29 races
    10 winners
    ROI $2.18
    While the profits were driven by a couple of $40 horses and several $20 horses, I think this should be studied more. The profits would have been better if a 22:1 shot had a longer nose or any of the other 3 place horse at 30:1, 16:1, or 112:1 had won. All place horse lost by a length or less.
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