I found the one above and removed it. Where is the other? — Dave Schwartz

Maybe in "A different speed rating"?

LOL.

Threads do drift.

Sorry. When I heard COLLECTIVE SPEED, since I've never heard of anyone other than me using those words, I assume the discussion was about this thread. — Dave Schwartz

It is. This thread is about Tom's UOL.

I am referring to the collective speed in UOL, not Multicaps. There is no collective speed in Multicaps.

In other words, what you are describing does not seem to me to be the same thing that s implemented in UOL.

So, I have the same question. What am I missing?

I'm lost.

Looking at the 4/17 WO race 6 with Multicaps file (BRIS). #1 has a COLL column amount of 613. That equals the total of the 10 speed ratings for that horse, including a zero for a race in which that horse lost his rider.

There is a button for COLLECTIVE SPEED. When I press that button, all of the horses for the day are listed (sorted) with each showing the value found in the COLL column.

What am I missing?

Mark, I had the same question. Also, when a jockey falls off, the SR is zero.

Post questions and comments in here please. — Steven

What is Twin%

Yes, and Sartin and Quirin are among those who pointed out that Place and Win are not selected the same way.

Interesting discussion fellas. Boy Dave you really like that 8/1 threshold. — Biniak

That's probably, in part, because the average payout is, I think, around 9/2. That's average. The median is lower, somewhere around 5/2. Dave can tell us more precisely. The average gets skewed way up by the infrequent 50/1 and such horses.

Except the ones that are very well-intended. — Dave Schwartz

Yes, I followed a horse yesterday that went slowly from 6/1 to 5/2 and then floated up to 3/1 and won. I think that was the one I mentioned to Tony.

From my observations, most horses above 6/1 go up near post time. There's always the exceptions.

Is that 8/1 on the tote board?

This horse was also the #1 BRIS Prime Power horse!

Biniak & RanchWest - Make sure that you really understand what's on the videos. It contains a completely different way of looking at IV Tables. — Dave Schwartz

Yes, I am almost half way through. I have a lot going on right now, so I am only able to watch a bit at a time.

I am just now diving into this. Anyone find any gems? I had forgotten about MRCT. Looks like it might be useful.

$3 Turf P3 paid $551.10.

I should have had that 3rd leg, but take could've, would've and should've in one hand and $1 in the other and you can buy yourself a doughnut.

9) 11 5 8 7 — RanchWest

Finish 3 12 11 8 5

Missed the P3, mine ran 3rd, 4th, 5th..

In the Beaumont, my picks are

2 1 7 4 — RanchWest

Finished 7 2 5 1, even money winner.

In the Beaumont, my picks are

2 1 7 4

7) 7 1 8 2 — RanchWest

Finshed 2 7 4 6

A lot of people probably singled the 7, so it is looking like the P3 will have a nice pay. On to leg 3.