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  • Ira Yorn
    27
    My hit rate is pretty good but I have a hard time narrowing down contenders to bet exactas. I have a tendency to overbet
  • Dave Schwartz
    454


    Maybe start by describing what you're currently doing.

    Start with this question:
    "What am I certain of right now?

    Then this question:
    "What I think is going wrong is..."
  • Ira Yorn
    27
    What I am certain of is that my of top 4 contenders 1 is winning 78% of the time . What I think is going wrong is that I am unable to narrow them to one or two contenders some are won by class or early pace combining low and high neal so I need some help narrowing down the contenders to the winners
  • Tony Kofalt
    411
    Ira- I too have encountered the same question. My problem is more related to horizontal wagers than exacta plays. Assuming a 78% win one four contenders I would hit less than 40% OF PICK 4 plays.
    My solution has been to key races in a sequence to one or two contenders and playing all contenders in the other races. This has resulted in careful ticket writing to show a rather small profit.
    If I was focusing on exactas I would look for races where I was comfortable keying on one or two horses as winner while dutching others to place in exactas. Does your record keeping tell you how many times the win/place are part of your contenders? I'm impressed with your contender selection process but we are fighting to insure capturing the place horse. Please keep me posted on your progress
  • Dave Schwartz
    454
    What I am certain of is that my of top 4 contenders 1 is winning 78% of the time . What I think is going wrong is that I am unable to narrow them to one or two contenders some are won by class or early pace combining low and high neal so I need some help narrowing down the contenders to the winnersIra Yorn

    Examine the two questions again.

    Being certain of an END RESULT is a good start. But the answer must be framed in the manner of "I am certain that doing THIS, AND THIS will get me 78% winners WITHIN MY TARGET RANGE OF HORSES."

    I'll explain why...
    Let's say that you are using the AI Line's top 88% to pick contenders.
    (That will likely score you about 91% wins.)

    However, it logically will often include 6 or 7 horses. So, in those cases it tells you nothing.

    78% is a very good number... if it is usually no more than 3/4 horses. Beyond that, it isn't doing anything for you. That is, if it isn't scoring you the horses you are searching for.
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    I would think that the problem needs to be BETTER DEFINED.

    Think of it like going through a grocery store. Imagine there are aisles containing handicapping approaches.


    **High Hit Rate
    They usually don't label "but Low Prices" because the high hit rate/low prices are dating on a regular basis.

    **High Prices
    "Low Hit Rate" can be assumed, right?
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    Reconsider the question "What I think is going wrong is..."
    What do you think the CAUSE of this is?
  • Dave Schwartz
    454

    Also, @Tony Kofalt gave you his answer.

    Notice how his answer included a STRATEGY for addressing the problem.

    That is probably what you're looking for...

    What strategy are you currently using to get the odds ranges you're looking for?
  • Ira Yorn
    27
    Tony
    Thanks a lot I really appreciate it `Maybe we can meet sometime and discuss this more
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