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  • Tom Atwater
    16
    How do I know what these are, and when to use them?

    At The Wire
    MONSTER
    Whales (4)
    The Arthur
  • Dave Schwartz
    447
    How do I know what these are, and when to use them?

    At The Wire
    MONSTER
    Whales (4)
    The Arthur
    Tom Atwater

    1. What they are is in the description.
    2. How to use them is dependent upon your personal strategy.


    Part 3 - will be WEDNESDAY at 4:30pm pacific time.
    This is Q & A to make sure everyone is up to date.

    ** Anyone who has not completed Part 2 - Full onboarding - WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST.
    ** Only about half have completed Part 2. (We've done 2 live sessions and recorded both.)

    Part 4 - Hopefully the following week
    Part 4 is HOW TO BUILD YOUR OWN SYSTEM.
    We will start with what I am calling EASY MODELING.

    After Part 4 we'll change to full-on TEACHING MODE.
    The workshops will slow down - every 2 weeks, then every 3 weeks, then ???
    We'll also do some live play sessions.

    These sessions will go on indefinitely.
    ______________________
    We will build this community with interaction and collaboration.
    The people who choose not to participate will find themselves far behind.
  • Dio
    22
    None of you will ever achieve profitability through this program, and I invite anyone to demonstrate otherwise. I am unconcerned with how many private or special master's sessions I attend. It's all bullshit. The fact that you do not observe the tote board demonstrates this. Thirty-eight percent of the bets you place result in a loss, even when you are successful. Why would you engage in betting when two of the three horses you wager on are expected to yield negative returns? Your assertion that losing $8-$15 is preferable to losing $30 is unfounded. My response would be to select the overlay, wager $10 on that horse to win, and accept the outcome. A loss remains a loss irrespective of interpretation. Excluding individuals based on perceived inadequacies solely exposes arrogance. I would prefer not to associate myself with your community. What is being constructed here pertains to perception, which consequently maintains everyone's engagement.
  • Red Knave
    30
    @Dio
    Wow! That's a lot of frustration. This 'game' that we all play can certainly do that. Some of what you say is true but not completely. Also, some is not true but again not completely.
    Observing the tote board is impossible, even to the well connected. You will never know the true odds of the horse(s) you wager on until after the start so there really is no reason to check the tote.
    I say, go ahead and bet your overlay. If you can psychologically accept the outcome that 75% of the time you will lose that wager then good on you. I know that I can't and Dave has said that he can't either.
    Cashing tickets more often has a less negative effect on the bankroll and thus a more positive effect on your psyche and a boost to what Dick Schmidt called the 'velocity of money'. Keeping those fluctuations to a minimum is something that I've learned that I need.
    I'm not sure what you refer to when you say 'perception'. I'm seeing something incrementally better than anything I've seen before and I've seen a lot.
  • Gillycapper
    49
    CAW's have ruined the game I can only place maybe 6 to 8 bets a day on a weekend card. Odds are dropping after the gate opens. No software can predict odds dropping like that. What quality software can do is help narrow down selections. With that being said, I made a post weeks back about getting out of the US market and placing more bets overseas. I approximately have 25 to 35% of my bankroll involved in overseas racing. I will be moving more. I don't see the US market getting any better with the CAWS involved at the level, they are. A reduction in field size hasn't helped the game. I am making money overseas and losing money in the US market. That should explain where i will be heading at some point. I can understand your frustration, but this has zero to do with DET software. DET software will only help not hurt.
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