I am so jealous. I woke up at the opposite end of the racing spectrum this morning.

Thank you, Dave. Looking forward to it.

That is fantastic.

HAHA

Ah, that dumbass Biniak. He's the dullest tool in the shed.

Nice! Thanks Dave.

For anyone interested, I've attached a one page summary of Dave's 3-part discussion on "Concepts & POV". — Jack Price

Thanks Jack. That was nice.

Dave,

Thank you for the 'Concepts and POV' threads. Awesome of you to share so freely!

How are you relating this to horse racing? Are you making the case for a bet against low odds horse to tilt the odds?

As an MJC owner, "Kickbacks from Jockeys and agents to barn staffs is a new one for me."

And I've been an owner for a while now. Whacked?

When I won a race, I gave everyone involved at least $50, even a former trainer (to sooth his pride).

That is way cool. Please keep the updates coming. Good luck this weekend!

I was reading over this thread and recalled a discussion I had a with friend regarding chaos races. My friend noticed less predictable results when handicapping a race where entrants had not run to PAR. I remember doing a brief test about 10 years ago after our discussion. What I did was compare my projected figs to the race PAR. In my case it was the Beyer PAR. Some time has passed so I don't have the actual test data but I do recall seeing more unusual results in those races.
Has anyone conducted any similar tests? — Tony Kofalt

I have tested this with Equibase Pars, without enough occurrences for a conclusive decision. Hopefully we can get other "Think Tankers" to chime in.

Hey Tony,

Did Ranch's response answer your question? If not, I'll find a BEL race from last weekend.

In my research, a lot of maiden races and 3-year-olds have less than 15 speed points.

Excellent!

BTW it seems to me that there should be another way to measure ES other than QSP. I realize QSP are reliable but have diminished betting value.

Oh Randy Giles.

No, add all the QSP together and divide the individual horses by the total. If the highest value is 15% that what I was referring to. For example, Horse A has 7 QSP and the total for the race is 47.

Did I explain it correctly?

Have either of you two tried/tested Quirin Speed Point percentage? When it's less than .15 weird happening occur.

10,000 hours worth of working code — Dave Schwartz

Equals 416+ Days. .24/7 Days too.

but I've not found anything I can't do or get done in some round about manner. — Steven

Ain't that the TRUTH. Also, a really good life lesson.

Amen to that Ranch! I am constantly 'what-if-ing' the software for better, faster, simpler ways to do business, handicapping or trading. Sometimes it's best to start fresh as the program gets unwieldy.

I am almost to that point AGAIN.

"Eric the Anchor" — Tom

Very funny!