Ditto. I sort of consider myself a refugee seeking reasonable and civilized discord.

Yep, it is tough to find folks who genuinely want to discuss ways to improve on handicapping. I always welcome reasoned, friendly conversation as we've found here.

I see it precisely the same way.

IN ORDER FOR THIS FORUM TO SUCCEED...
We need engagement.

We also need the forum to NOT be ALL ABOUT DAVE SCHWARTZ.

It has to find its own way; has to create its own growth.
It has to create its own new Super Stars.

I urge you to INVITE people. But make sure that they understand the success depends upon them actually posting.

I urge you to INVITE people. But make sure that they understand the success depends upon them actually posting. — Dave Schwartz

Dave forgot to add "but be careful who you invite from PaceAdvantage"...lol :)

"but be careful who you invite from PaceAdvantage". — Dustin Korth

Truer words have never been spoken.

Those people are mostly golden.
Just need a few boundaries. LOL

Those people are mostly golden. — Dave Schwartz

How many serious handicapping discussions are there? I see a lot of strategies to use wagering manipulations to cover for a lack of sound handicapping.

How many serious handicapping discussions are there? I see a lot of strategies to use wagering manipulations to cover for a lack of sound handicapping. — RanchWest

My perception is different.

Just need a few boundaries. LOL — Dave Schwartz

Haha yep that's where I was going with that.

My perception is different. — Dave Schwartz

You've just degraded my opinion of your perceptions. lol

I find far more useful content on other boards, including here.

There's some really great posters on PA but I think the problem is that often when there is useful content, there's too many that chime in trying to derail the thread rather than contribute...and when it gets messy the contributors just move on.

Dustin Korth — Dustin Korth

You have a valid point there.

Hope I didn't diminish the tone of this forum. Not my intent.

There's some really great posters on PA but I think the problem is that often when there is useful content, there's too many that chime in trying to derail the thread rather than contribute...and when it gets messy the contributors just move on. — Dustin Korth

Bang on Dustin!

People/posters have great ideas that others would find useful and then someone barges in like a bull in a China shop and it derails the thread defeating the whole purpose of the thread

Has happened to me a lot over there where I would ask a "simple" question or comment something on another post and then someone verbally attacks what I just said causing a whole argument that really isn't necessary

3-4 bans later from PA I should learn my lesson from now on but those 3 bans were basically from what I said above

All I am saying is that we do not build something good by degrading something else.

Reminded of a quote from a some chick movie:

"The best way to get over one guy is to get under another."

Kind of the same thing.

All I am saying is that we do not build something good by degrading something else. — Dave Schwartz

Good point, Dave.