• Dave Schwartz
    235
    My data comes from Brisnet but I'm pretty sure DRF and Equibase also have lifetime.Dustin Korth

    Which file comes with lifetime PPs at BRIS?
  • Dustin Korth
    49
    Someone else set up the data feed. I'll ask and get back to you.
  • Mark
    13
    I don't know of any Brisnet data file that gives lifetime pp's! Of course it will show you the highest lifetime speed ratings for dirt, turf etc.
  • RanchWest
    419
    I don't know of any Brisnet data file that gives lifetime pp's! Of course it will show you the highest lifetime speed ratings for dirt, turf etc.Mark

    Yes, you just don't know what pace rating matches to the lifetime speed.
  • Dustin Korth
    49
    Maybe we're getting lifetime by scraping PPs rather than data files. Not sure but I'll find out.
  • Dave Schwartz
    235
    Maybe we're getting lifetime by scraping PPs rather than data files. Not sure but I'll find out.Dustin Korth

    Thank you.
    It's a feature I've recently added to the new software - not lifetime, but adds to a history file. Probably not in the 1st release.
  • Biniak
    54
    Bris has lifetime best SR listed to the right of the Lifetime consistency box. See #3 Thenorthrembers.

    [pdf removed]
  • RanchWest
    419
    Bris has lifetime best SR listed to the right of the Lifetime consistency box. See #3 Thenorthrembers.Biniak

    Yes, but this angle requires the lifetime best 4f pace, too.
  • RanchWest
    419
    4TDN 5/26
    #3 is coming off of a 10-race double top. I like #2.
  • RanchWest
    419
    4TDN 5/26
    #3 is coming off of a 10-race double top. I like #2.
    RanchWest

    My line had 7-2-3. The 3 held off #7. 2 is still running :lol: .
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    5-27 Belmont
    Race 4- Baba (2-1)- was claimed by a winning barn last out which should only help depress her odds. I expect her to get outside pressure early and fade in deep stretch.
  • RanchWest
    419
    Baba is coming off a claim and taking an apprentice, which is sometimes a winning combo. She's also coming out of a possible key race. I think she's got a shot.
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    Ranch you were right on the money. Even though the scratch her chances up front she humbled these. I read the race wrong!!
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    5-28 Belmont
    Race 10- Sharp Sensation- won a 4 horse photo last out in his turf debut and figures to be strongly backed at the windows today. His projected figs are no better than three others in here.
  • RanchWest
    419
    Ranch you were right on the money. Even though the scratch her chances up front she humbled these. I read the race wrong!!Tony Kofalt

    Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes. :lol:
  • Tom
    69
    Question......
    Using BRIS, the rule would use E2 in sprints, E1 in routes, both being quater mile pace?

    Thanks
    No data to quantify, but for years, using the 2nd call pace in both sprints and routes, a pattern I've found very predictive for young, lightly race horses (<10 starts) is

    1. New pace top, SR goes down a length or two
    2. Next race, pace goes down, SR goes to new top.
  • Biniak
    54
    I am pretty sure that E2 in sprints and E1 in routes is the half mile pace.
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    Vulnerable fav 5-30 Belmont

    Race 4- Mr Connecticut (5-2)- I feel that he's developed a pattern of happy to chase the leaders. I'm certain he will finish well a pick up a minor award.
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    Vulnerable fav 6-3 Belmont

    Race 4- Soldier Rising (3-5)- failed at low odds last time while encountering trouble. That trouble line will only depress his odds today.
  • Ken Fee
    30
    Vulnerable ML 6-26-22 Belmont
    Pre-scratch ( scratches will need adj)

    Race 1 :-4 Grudge 5-2 Early horse that isnt quickest early will not have finishing kick
    Contenders: 1,2,6
    Race 3 : 4 Tiergen 7-5 Negative drop
    Contenders:1,3,4
    Race 5 : 10 Blissful Change Likes dashes wont like the 7f and will use energy from the outside
    Contenders: 8,5,6
    Race 7 : 5 Deep Cover 2-1 fights for early lead and fades
    Contenders:1,6,3
    Race 8 : 7 Bank Sting 2-1 figures to be bet down and doesn't look better then a few here
    Contenders: 3,6,1
  • Ken Fee
    30
    some without explanations
    CD Race 8: 1 Minute Waltz- Hanger
    GP Race 7: 4 Chucky
    Lrl Race 2: 13 Fomo
    Lrl Race 3 : 2 Middle Island
    Lrl Race 5 : 1 Loyne
    Lad Race 5: 6 Rooster Run
    Lad Race 7: 7 Cool Catomine
    Mth Race 3: 5 She Broke My Heart
    Mth Race 8: 2 Jolly Heretic
    Mth Race 9: 9 Ballagh Rocks
    WO Race 1: 3 Pacenza
    WO Race 2: 4 Master Spy
    WO Race 4: 10 Souper Watson
    WO Race 8: 8 Maclean's Posse
  • Ken Fee
    30
    Vulnerable ML 6-26-22 from above posts 19 Races 14 non -winners 14-5/2 and under 10 Non-winners

    Bel Race 1 :-4 Grudge Won 7/5
    Bel Race 3 : 4 Tiergen Place 4/5
    Bel Race 5 : 10 Blissful ChangeOut 5/2
    Bel Race 7 : 5 Deep Cover Place 1/1
    Bel Race 8 : 7 Bank Sting 2-1 Won 4/5
    CD Race 8: 1 Minute Waltz- Out 2/1
    GP Race 7: 4 Chucky Out 7/2
    Lrl Race 2: 13 Fomo Out 3/1
    Lrl Race 3 : 2 Middle Island Out 6/5
    Lrl Race 5 : 1 Loyne Won 6/5
    Lad Race 5: 6 Rooster Run4/5 out
    Lad Race 7: 7 Cool Catomine 5/2 won
    Mth Race 3: 5 She Broke My Heart Show 2/1
    Mth Race 8: 2 Jolly Heretic Show 6/5
    Mth Race 9: 9 Ballagh Rocks Out 8/1
    WO Race 1: 3 Pacenza Out 4/1
    WO Race 2: 4 Master Spy Place 5/2
    WO Race 4: 10 Souper Watson Won 7/2
    WO Race 8: 8 Maclean's Posse place 4/5
  • RanchWest
    419
    Good capping, Ken!
  • Ken Fee
    30
    thanks Ranch
  • Tony Kofalt
    292
    Good job Ken!!!
  • stevekisslingerAccepted Answer
    4
    TDN1 July 5. First race today at Thistledown. #5 Midnight Ohio looks like a very legitimate FTS here.
    But at 1/2 with 8MTP there are several things not to like. Including the fact that there are at least two other horses the #1 and #3 that have run to par for the level, and the #6 looks to only be a step behind these two. Plenty of speed signed up, which means our FTS will have to pass several horses in the lane to win this. Betting against at 1/2 odds. Off track only adds to uncertainty here.
  • RanchWest
    419


    The only thing I saw is the trainer has good stats. Not much of a work tab. Not a lot of competition, but at point 7 to 1, that's slim pickin's.
  • stevekisslinger
    4
    horse won at 3/5. not a surprise, with the good connections
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